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I know logistically it might be harder with it being dark and all but it would be fun to have the freezing your butt off equivalent to the hot as balls summer series.  Just something to think about:)

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Get out of my head - that was my idea!! haha...I bet the thought crossed several minds during this last race (as it was hot as balls). I think it would be super fun to run it in the winter. We could have our pizza party in the school gym afterwards! :)
I want the August Dog Day's "Ultimate Runner" brought back!

Pat, where are you?
Great idea! I think the club membership in general will be thankful to you for stepping up to the plate to develop and direct a winter series... :)
To help with the logistics lets combine the winter series into one race on a Sunday morning and call it Frostbite. If it is cold enough we can have ice stops instead of water stops.
I know we have the Frostbite but I mean specifically using the same course so that we could see our improvement.

Don't worry Mark, Renee and I will figure something out ;)
I like the Ultimate runner Idea - Pat did do a great job with that.
YEAH, PIZZA AND "GOLDEN DELICIOUS" AT THE END!

For those unfamiliar, the Ultimate was a 5 Event run in summer evening consisting of consecutive track runs of 1 mile, 800 meters, 400 meters and 100 meters on the track followed by a 5K. Points were accumulated for each event to determine overall and age group winners.

I just looked at an old Ultimate T-Shirt and it was actually in June, not August. Would be difficult to do now with the greater number of club run participants. Entries were limited back then also because of logistics of running the event and results, but club run turnouts now seem much larger so there would be more disappointed. But they were fun, in a masochistic sort of way.
Could this be done in a elimination style? Start with the 5K, then 1 mile, then 800 etc. Only letting select finishers advance to the next race. By the 100M run it could be down to a few heats.
Might work but the eliminated would miss out on the "fun". Attraction to me was the participation versus determining the top Ultimate Runners. And places were done by age group also, so that would present problems with eliminations.

Recall one runner winning the 100 meters hands down but coming in last in 5K. Looked like the decatheletes doing the final 1500 meter runs.

Since track runs required heats, they were done first (in the order I listed) and then all ran the 5K at the end. Still took some time to compile results but the beer eased the wait. Limit may have been 75 runners?

May have just outgrown this one.
The ultimate runner was a great event. A good idea to return but there were 67 and 61 finishers in '92 and '93; and there were heats. All we would need for this with hundreds of participants would be a place with 5+ tracks next to each other and lots of volunteers. Not very probable, but fun to think about.
Perhaps it could be done with heats over a couple of weeks with a final championship at the end. First you get folks to sign up. Then the number of heats is determined. The heats are held and out of each heat a champion is declared for each age group/gender. Those champions compete in the end to become the Ultimate Runner Champion and Age Group Champion.
I think that eliminating individuals by running the 5K first would penalize the sprinters and the opposite, if the 100 were run first. You might have some records for slowest 100m or 5K.
As for volunteers; if you're participating in the event you must volunteer at one of the alternate events where you're not scheduled to compete.
And in keeping with the Ultimate Runner tradition, shirts only to those that finish all five events. I still have mine from Pat's races in the early '90's.

The order of events was 1 mile, 440, 880, 100 and 5K. The idea originated with the Twin City Track Club in Winston-Salem, NC. They still hold their event each June and next year will be the 25th running.

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